vertigo66: (Star Trek - I love you Captain)
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I fully admit I am a cranky old trekkie so you've been warned...

I'm glad I saw it, but I am officially MEH on the whole thing. It was certainly a fine and enjoyable action movie, but it just didn't feel like Star Trek to me. The actors were all fine in their roles (especially the guys playing McCoy and Scotty)...but even with all its campiness, the original series was far more cerebral. Even Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, probably the most action-y of the TOS movies, was more thought-provoking than this was.

But maybe that's okay...maybe that's what people are looking for when they go to the movies these days. And it certainly seems that this movie takes place in a different universe than the old series, so none of the old series stuff is going to happen in this universe...but that makes me sad. It's sad to have a universe where Vulcan was destroyed and Kirk grew up without a father and Spock loses his mother so early. But that also keeps me from expecting too much from this series, because it's totally different now--a different Star Trek, not the one I loved so much. (I felt really weird when I saw Leonard Nimoy on the screen; it was like a doddering old man had wandered into the wrong movie. I was embarrassed for him. *iz ashamed*)

I did not think Chris Pine and Zach Quinto had very much chemistry, or maybe it was because they weren't in very many scenes together, or maybe they did have chemistry, just not the kind I was looking for. *snerk* And say what you will about William Shatner, he always had beautiful skin, and Chris Pine...doesn't (what, they don't have a cure for acne in the 23rd century? *cries*). And either he was too tall or Zach was too short, so they just didn't look right standing next to each other. I'm surprised that people are rediscovering K/S based on this movie, because it just wasn't there for me. Not at all.

Spock and Uhura did have some chemistry, but that so didn't happen in the original series so I'm going to ignore it. :P

In an article I read, the director or whoever said they didn't want this movie to end up being Galaxy Quest. The comparison is unfair, as Galaxy Quest was a loving send-up of Star Trek and its fans, not a serious action movie. But as campy as it was, it still felt more like the original series than this movie did. But considering the people who made this movie were not fans of the original (or even saw it, for that matter, right?), it's not surprising.

Cranky Trekkie out...

Date: 2009-05-18 02:28 pm (UTC)
cruisedirector: (kirkspock)
From: [personal profile] cruisedirector
I love you. *g*

Date: 2009-05-18 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
*loves back* I just sent you an email.

Date: 2009-05-18 02:35 pm (UTC)
cruisedirector: (fascinating)
From: [personal profile] cruisedirector
Ha, and I just answered it!

But you didn't answer the all-important question: is Jacob Kogan THE CUTEST THING YOU HAVE EVER SEEN OMG or what?

Date: 2009-05-18 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Well, he did get beaten up in the movie by other kids so that part was okay. HAHA. OMG I'm going to hell now.

Date: 2009-05-18 02:48 pm (UTC)
cruisedirector: (fail)
From: [personal profile] cruisedirector
*howls, accompanies you*

I've met him a couple of times and he seemed sort of shy, but maybe he just had no interest in talking to anyone in my family (I don't particularly bond with other people's kids but my mother almost always does). If he were anyone, it wouldn't be so irritating.

Certain relatives of certain actors who shall remain nameless were not terribly impressed with Winona Ryder.

Date: 2009-05-18 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I barely recognized her. She had only a handful of lines.

Date: 2009-05-18 02:56 pm (UTC)
cruisedirector: (trekking)
From: [personal profile] cruisedirector
I had the impression that originally she had more lines, and the filmmakers decided to go in a different direction!

Date: 2009-05-18 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I'm sorry you didn't like it! You make a good point about it being a lot more actiony and a lot less thinky than the originals. I like actiony SF as well as thinky SF pretty much equally (so long as neither translates to apocalyptic and/or depressing SF), so I didn't even think about that.

I'm really enjoying reading the thoughts of people who did and did not like it; the reasons are varied and interesting almost across the board.

Date: 2009-05-18 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Oh, good, you weren't insulted. I was a little worried...

I think you do like action movies more than I do, judging by the movies you've seen. I think action movies are liable to give me a headache, so that might be part of my dislike.

Other people disliked the Star Trek movie? I've been kind of avoiding reading about the movie, so I didn't realize I'm not alone!

Date: 2009-05-18 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I am totally not offended when people have different opinions on entertainment than me. :D

And yeah, I lurve action movies! And this was definitely an action movie, so. *nod*

Yep, other people disliked the Trek movie. Mostly (from what I've seen, which hasn't been much since I haven't really gone looking for a lot of reactions) the dislike stems from wishing the movie had been a prequel to the actual original series -- expecting that, and being really bummed that instead the movie went an ENTIRELY different direction** (or mangled the legend, depending on how angry the poster is) -- or being really pissed off that the movie had the gall to ship Spock with someone who was not Kirk. :P I've also read some responses where people liked some things but thought the movie was off its rocker in other respects. So, yeah, the fervent love is not universal by far!

** Which I do agree with to a point. They freaking BLEW UP VULCAN. WTF! That's...wrong. So wrong! I just. There is so much involving Vulcan that is integral to all of Star Trek in my mind, and I have trouble imagining that a Trek universe could be at all worthwhile without it. So that required a hell of a paradigm shift for me, but once I compartmentalized that I could be all spazzy 'YAY!' about the rest of the movie.
Edited Date: 2009-05-18 03:52 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-05-18 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Honestly, I'm not sure I would've liked it better if it HAD been a faithful prequel to the TOS. I can't see any way that the movie would have worked for me! So for what it was, it was fine. It wasn't an embarrassment like I thought it might be. If that's what Star Trek is now, I'm fine with it, but I'm also not too interested in it, either. (I really do wish they'd picked another actor for Kirk...someone prettier. *is totally shallow*)

I was pretty horrified by the destruction of Vulcan as well. What's going to happen when Spock goes through Pon Farr? Oh, maybe that's what Uhura is there for. :P

Date: 2009-05-18 04:48 pm (UTC)
cruisedirector: (badgirls)
From: [personal profile] cruisedirector
...I'd have worded this more strongly if I'd actually, you know, seen the movie. *g*

Date: 2009-05-18 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
LOL! I totally found TOS boring and never really watched much of it even though my dad liked it. And I have zero interest in seeing the movie. So it's funny to see all the squeeing and crankiness and I'm just mystified, but amused.

Date: 2009-05-18 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]

a different Star Trek, not the one I loved so much.

*nod* And this is the basis of why I've had no interest in this project. I can get on board most of the Trek franchises, but this is a retooling of the original, and I just... something in me is not allowing for this treatment to feel like an homage. *shrug*

Date: 2009-05-19 01:14 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-11-23 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
The bloke who directed the movie or whoever that dared badmouthing "Galaxy Quest" had it right in one way: this movie was not "Galaxy Quest". "Galaxy Quest" was a good movie.

I just saw a handful of episodes from the original Trek and the first movie, but I spend the whole movie going "GTFO, you're not my Kirk. My Kirk has charisma, and even though he could be an asshole you could see why his crew was willing to follow him to hell and back. This guy, he's just an asshole."


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